Comments on: Pig Ban – The media is to blame http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/10/09/pig-ban-the-media-is-to-blame/ Liberal, Green and Fair Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:18:32 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Gav http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/10/09/pig-ban-the-media-is-to-blame/#comment-149 Gav Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:42:16 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/?p=105#comment-149 Quite right Ehud. I think the truth is that there are people who take life far too seriously and those that don't. Unfortunately, those who take life too seriously choose to take positions of responsibility - I think this is inevitable. If something as innocuous as a jewish person (a human for goodness sake) in the Simpsons (Krusty - how is he offensive?) offends then I think we need to say very slowly to the complainant "It's a cartoon" or "I don't" as appropriate. Society generally accepts that some things are best kept out of the work-place (pornography) but even that is appropriate in some motor garages - I think we all need to calm down and smile a bit more! Quite right Ehud.

I think the truth is that there are people who take life far too seriously and those that don’t. Unfortunately, those who take life too seriously choose to take positions of responsibility – I think this is inevitable.

If something as innocuous as a jewish person (a human for goodness sake) in the Simpsons (Krusty – how is he offensive?) offends then I think we need to say very slowly to the complainant “It’s a cartoon” or “I don’t” as appropriate.

Society generally accepts that some things are best kept out of the work-place (pornography) but even that is appropriate in some motor garages – I think we all need to calm down and smile a bit more!

]]> By: Ehud http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/10/09/pig-ban-the-media-is-to-blame/#comment-147 Ehud Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:06:03 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/?p=105#comment-147 Yes the media might have got it out of size, but the idea is still there. I know I am going to open a pandora/s box, but the rise of the right in germany involved the cutting out of books and the burning of them, which lead to people. I think that recent events should show us a red light, or at least an amber one. How about a recent sale of the simsons to an arabic TV station, the producers agreed to , cut out beer, changing bacon to something less provocitive and removing all reference to Jews. This was done , so why burn books when western prodicers are ready to agree to self censorship , for a quick buck. As well as being censorship it is also prodicing a new generation of Children in arab countries without any education that there are different cultures in the world and instilling a little tolerance to them, If you like western things like fast cars micky mouse and Homer Simpson then take it as is, if not then am sure that local TV directors are imaginative to come up with something more tuend into local culture,, but then don't ask why the TV dishes go up on roofs to get something else. Correct me if I am wrong but most of the Muslim immegernts in Europe ran away from Intolerent govenrments, so it seams a little strange why there is a movement to restore the very valurs that they run from, eg murdering a dutch member or parlement, threats to Mr Rushdi, etc Yes the media might have got it out of size, but the idea is still there.
I know I am going to open a pandora/s box, but the rise of the right in germany involved the cutting out of books and the burning of them, which lead to people.
I think that recent events should show us a red light, or at least an amber one. How about a recent sale of the simsons to an arabic TV station, the producers agreed to , cut out beer, changing bacon to something less provocitive and removing all reference to Jews. This was done , so why burn books when western prodicers are ready to agree to self censorship , for a quick buck. As well as being censorship it is also prodicing a new generation of Children in arab countries without any education that there are different cultures in the world and instilling a little tolerance to them, If you like western things like fast cars micky mouse and Homer Simpson then take it as is, if not then am sure that local TV directors are imaginative to come up with something more tuend into local culture,, but then don’t ask why the TV dishes go up on roofs to get something else.
Correct me if I am wrong but most of the Muslim immegernts in Europe ran away from Intolerent govenrments, so it seams a little strange why there is a movement to restore the very valurs that they run from, eg murdering a dutch member or parlement, threats to Mr Rushdi, etc

]]> By: Gav http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/10/09/pig-ban-the-media-is-to-blame/#comment-62 Gav Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:56:49 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/?p=105#comment-62 To be fair I said "make stories out of nothing" when I should have made it clearer that the media exagerrated a less severe, but still disturbing, story. To be fair I said “make stories out of nothing” when I should have made it clearer that the media exagerrated a less severe, but still disturbing, story.

]]> By: j0nz http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/10/09/pig-ban-the-media-is-to-blame/#comment-60 j0nz Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:11:06 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/?p=105#comment-60 Having said that I no way want to undermine what gav was trying to say here; that the media are shit stirrers. I think the problem here is why is this story just so <i>believable</i> in it's original form? Well it's because this PC crap happens all the time. (Ok my point of reference is... the media!!) Having said that I no way want to undermine what gav was trying to say here; that the media are shit stirrers. I think the problem here is why is this story just so believable in it’s original form? Well it’s because this PC crap happens all the time. (Ok my point of reference is… the media!!)

]]> By: j0nz http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/10/09/pig-ban-the-media-is-to-blame/#comment-59 j0nz Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:07:47 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/?p=105#comment-59 True. OK blow out of all proportion, but it was an awesome 'scandal' for the tabloids! What wonkotsane said, it's so irritating that a person isn't clued enough to have a rational response. I would have told the press if I'd been 'advised' to avoid pig related items so as not to offend an Muslim. As an atheist I find religion, primarily Islam as highly offensive. So they gonna stop Muslims going to prayer room because of me? I don't thinks so! They'd get a jihad on their ass.... True. OK blow out of all proportion, but it was an awesome ‘scandal’ for the tabloids! What wonkotsane said, it’s so irritating that a person isn’t clued enough to have a rational response. I would have told the press if I’d been ‘advised’ to avoid pig related items so as not to offend an Muslim. As an atheist I find religion, primarily Islam as highly offensive. So they gonna stop Muslims going to prayer room because of me? I don’t thinks so! They’d get a jihad on their ass….

]]> By: Gav http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/10/09/pig-ban-the-media-is-to-blame/#comment-53 Gav Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:17:40 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/?p=105#comment-53 Agreed. Agreed.

]]> By: wonkotsane http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/10/09/pig-ban-the-media-is-to-blame/#comment-51 wonkotsane Sun, 09 Oct 2005 15:05:06 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/?p=105#comment-51 I wonder when I'll get my reply. It's been over-exaggerated but it doesn't change the fact that a council department actually gave credence to one muslim's complaint about pig-shaped stress relievers. He should have been told to go away and find some work to do. Anyone who has enough time on their hands to come up with that complaint obviously hasn't got enough work to do. I wonder when I’ll get my reply.

It’s been over-exaggerated but it doesn’t change the fact that a council department actually gave credence to one muslim’s complaint about pig-shaped stress relievers. He should have been told to go away and find some work to do. Anyone who has enough time on their hands to come up with that complaint obviously hasn’t got enough work to do.

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