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	<title>Comments on: English Votes on English Matters</title>
	<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/10/english-votes-on-english-matters/</link>
	<description>English, Rationalist and Liberal Conservative</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: James Hellyer</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/10/english-votes-on-english-matters/#comment-718</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think the artificial adminsitrative areas that replaced some counties stand in testimony to that, with Avon being the prime example. That was never popular with the people who lived there, many of whom regretted the removal of the &quot;county&quot; title from the city of Bristol, while many people in parts of Gloucestershire and Somerset that were included in Avon felt they had been cut off from their traditional counties. In particular there was a long-running campaign to return Weston-Super-Mare to Somerset.

Despite there being a fairly strong rational basis (it was conterminous with the Bristol 'Travel to Work Area' defined since the 50s/60s for planning purposes) it didn't appeal to the hearts and minds if its inhabitants and so failed.

Why would regional assemblies be any different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the artificial adminsitrative areas that replaced some counties stand in testimony to that, with Avon being the prime example. That was never popular with the people who lived there, many of whom regretted the removal of the &#8220;county&#8221; title from the city of Bristol, while many people in parts of Gloucestershire and Somerset that were included in Avon felt they had been cut off from their traditional counties. In particular there was a long-running campaign to return Weston-Super-Mare to Somerset.</p>
<p>Despite there being a fairly strong rational basis (it was conterminous with the Bristol &#8216;Travel to Work Area&#8217; defined since the 50s/60s for planning purposes) it didn&#8217;t appeal to the hearts and minds if its inhabitants and so failed.</p>
<p>Why would regional assemblies be any different?
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		<title>by: Gav</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/10/english-votes-on-english-matters/#comment-683</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/10/english-votes-on-english-matters/#comment-683</guid>
					<description>Absolutely. Civic spirit and football supporting exists because people identify with their town or area. They do not, in the strongest terms, identify with Regions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely. Civic spirit and football supporting exists because people identify with their town or area. They do not, in the strongest terms, identify with Regions.
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		<title>by: James Hellyer</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/10/english-votes-on-english-matters/#comment-679</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/10/english-votes-on-english-matters/#comment-679</guid>
					<description>That's because regional assemblies don't match the patterns of our communities. Their regions are arbitrary constructs created by bureaucrats. 

We identify ourselves in terms of parishes (although people may not think of them as such), towns and counties. These are the units that have evolved over time, and within which our communities operate.  True localism would devolve power back down to these units.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s because regional assemblies don&#8217;t match the patterns of our communities. Their regions are arbitrary constructs created by bureaucrats. </p>
<p>We identify ourselves in terms of parishes (although people may not think of them as such), towns and counties. These are the units that have evolved over time, and within which our communities operate.  True localism would devolve power back down to these units.
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		<title>by: Gav</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/10/english-votes-on-english-matters/#comment-635</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/10/english-votes-on-english-matters/#comment-635</guid>
					<description>That depends entirely on what you mean by local! Regional assemblies are a government and EU construct which I, and most English people, do not want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That depends entirely on what you mean by local! Regional assemblies are a government and EU construct which I, and most English people, do not want.
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		<title>by: j0nz</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/10/english-votes-on-english-matters/#comment-634</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/10/english-votes-on-english-matters/#comment-634</guid>
					<description>local votes for local people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>local votes for local people!
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