Comments on: Rationalists will ruin the world http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/ English, Rationalist and Liberal Conservative Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:15:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Gav http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-14607 Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:06:17 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-14607 Mike, I wish I knew. I haven't yet gotten around to investigating the Secular Society, but I think I ought to: Faith schools represent a clear and present danger... Mike, I wish I knew.

I haven’t yet gotten around to investigating the Secular Society, but I think I ought to: Faith schools represent a clear and present danger…

]]> by: Mike http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-14601 Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:27:00 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-14601 Gav, Perhaps with these views you can make a policy difference for your party and support the abolition of faith schools as well as pushing for the disestablishment of the CoE. When is the Tory party going to see that libertarianism and rationality (not tradition and ingrained superstition) are the collective way forward. Gav,

Perhaps with these views you can make a policy difference for your party and support the abolition of faith schools as well as pushing for the disestablishment of the CoE. When is the Tory party going to see that libertarianism and rationality (not tradition and ingrained superstition) are the collective way forward.

]]> by: leanne http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-972 Thu, 22 Dec 2005 00:30:51 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-972 et tu jonz? et tu jonz?

]]> by: Gav http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-919 Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:06:03 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-919 Leanne - you're so cynical! The US economy does well because it is not highly regulated.... But maybe the teenage pregnancy does have some merit? The UK has more teenage pregnancies than the rest of the EU and the better economy... Leanne - you’re so cynical!

The US economy does well because it is not highly regulated….

But maybe the teenage pregnancy does have some merit? The UK has more teenage pregnancies than the rest of the EU and the better economy…

]]> by: j0nz http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-918 Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:37:16 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-918 Thank fuck - rationality pervades in America. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4545822.stm No teaching of ID in schools! I fully respect the Christian world-based view as a paradigm for ethical interactions - but not for an intelligent explanation for the world around us! Thank fuck - rationality pervades in America.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4545822.stm

No teaching of ID in schools! I fully respect the Christian world-based view as a paradigm for ethical interactions - but not for an intelligent explanation for the world around us!

]]> by: leanne http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-917 Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:31:07 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-917 mark, I am american so I can say we are stupid. and if Europe wants a better economic future they should follow the U.S. lead and sell all major companies to china and export jobs to mexico, the people should buy everything and everything they can not afford on credit then file bankruptcy so they can shop more, if this fails you can try and convince teenage girls to start having children to as many diffrent men as they can and make the government pay for everything. oh... and watch more television. mark, I am american so I can say we are stupid. and if Europe wants a better economic future they should follow the U.S. lead and sell all major companies to china and export jobs to mexico, the people should buy everything and everything they can not afford on credit then file bankruptcy so they can shop more, if this fails you can try and convince teenage girls to start having children to as many diffrent men as they can and make the government pay for everything. oh… and watch more television.

]]> by: mark http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-817 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:50:32 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-817 <i>"well americans ARE stupid"</i> I don't think that's fair. American's do have more to look forward too. Their economy is flexible and ready to deal with the challenges of the future and social mobility is far higher than in Europe. Moreover, America can still look forward to increasing power and influence in the world over the next few years at least. As Gav says, the economic outlook for Europe is not so bright and I believe that the relevance of Europe in the world is going to diminish. That said, if religion is the key then there is the question of why the British more optimistic than the less secular French. Also: <i>“[it is] hard to deny that the fear of an afterlife where one will be judged has likely kept hundreds of millions from committing acts of aggression”</i> Doesn't really explain the crusades, or the Spanish inquisition, or the pogroms/holocaust, or the relentless killing of Protestants by Catholics and vice versa from Henry VIII up to NI today. “well americans ARE stupid”

I don’t think that’s fair. American’s do have more to look forward too. Their economy is flexible and ready to deal with the challenges of the future and social mobility is far higher than in Europe. Moreover, America can still look forward to increasing power and influence in the world over the next few years at least. As Gav says, the economic outlook for Europe is not so bright and I believe that the relevance of Europe in the world is going to diminish.

That said, if religion is the key then there is the question of why the British more optimistic than the less secular French.

Also:

“[it is] hard to deny that the fear of an afterlife where one will be judged has likely kept hundreds of millions from committing acts of aggression”

Doesn’t really explain the crusades, or the Spanish inquisition, or the pogroms/holocaust, or the relentless killing of Protestants by Catholics and vice versa from Henry VIII up to NI today.

]]> by: leanne http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-798 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:18:27 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2005/12/18/rationalists-will-ruin-the-world/#comment-798 well americans ARE stupid... maybe ignorance IS bliss. "I am worried that humanity may need to believe in divine punishment in order to do good - I hope it is not true, and I doubt it is. " I hope its not true too, and alot of people who claim to be religous seem to be confused by what makes one moral. also morals seem to change with each generation, not always for the better. Im concerned with Americas youth and their views on sex. brings to mind the old philosophical question....can a moral man remain moral in an immoral world? well americans ARE stupid… maybe ignorance IS bliss.

“I am worried that humanity may need to believe in divine punishment in order to do good - I hope it is not true, and I doubt it is. ”

I hope its not true too, and alot of people who claim to be religous seem to be confused by what makes one moral. also morals seem to change with each generation, not always for the better. Im concerned with Americas youth and their views on sex.

brings to mind the old philosophical question….can a moral man remain moral in an immoral world?

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