A must read viewpoint on the Australian riots - very sensible… click here. I just wish he’d been writing when the Paris troubles started.
Thanks to Dodgeblogium for this find.
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December 27th, 2005 at 12:59 pm
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December 27th, 2005 at 7:04 pm
Interesting article, but very suspect if we read between the lines. I suppose what is said can be attributed to most groups in one way or another. However, lets not ignore that one of the reasons why such people in Australia are viewing muticulturalism as a problem, is because their own prejudices and rigid thinking will not allow them to do so. They can continue to throw blame on to all others, or they can accept that their own failure to welcome intergration is a key part of the problem. Multiculturalism is not the proble. The problem is that people refuse to accept it, unless on their own terms. With change, maybe then multiculturalism will be optimised, and only then would situation such as in OZ and France be avoided in the future.
December 28th, 2005 at 10:24 am
wrong Jamal. Most people of such thinking actually have integrated very well, they know the benefits of integration. They have a diverse range of friends who come from different coutries and who have different religious beliefs. Far from being rigid and prejudiced, they have an open-mind. The problem is actually from a select group of people who live in enclaves and refuse to integrate, spurning or are blind to the opportunities that are offered to them. Their own hostility to the host culture is the problem.
December 28th, 2005 at 11:01 am
Yaarn is right…
Of course, the real danger is when that hostility to the host culture is passed onto the children of enclaved immigrants.
December 28th, 2005 at 2:36 pm
While the post makes a lot of sense, the references to the Anglo-Saxon “host culture” are fanciful indeed
Unlike the UK and France, Australia is Anglo-Saxon now because it virtually wiped out all trace of the real host culture -that of the aborigines.
There is so little aboriginal influence in Australian culture today, that many outsiders struggle to see the difference between the English
and the Aussies.
I am no fan of multi-culturalism, but being a penal colony, a lot of the first generation settlers in Australia would have been of dubious character. It didn’t stop the country from getting where it is today.
That their descendants are now complaining of having their culture disrespected or eroded by foreigners is hiliariously ironic.
It is completely different to the situation in Paris, where the authorities even refuse to acknowledge the concept of ethnic minorities, referring to people who were born and whose parents were born in France as “immigrants”.
I don’t understand how you can even compare the two, Gavin.
December 28th, 2005 at 3:15 pm
France has issues, I’ll accept that, but I spent quite a lot of time in Paris with an “ethnic minority” and the only reference to her colour that we experienced was when men asked her “Vous etes an arab?”
That was the standard question to decide whether or not to chat her up. I have sympathy with people who struggle to get a job because of their colour, but not because of their cultural intolerance, and that’s some of the problem with France - Algerians and other immigrants are not “French” not only because the white population doesn’t recognise them as such, but also because a large number refuse to be French.
The ‘plight’ of the aboriginal people of Australia is history and nothing we can do about it now will either help or be justified. In fact Australia’s having massive problems creating racial harmony because of the racist treatment of non-aboriginals by the government. 1/16th aboriginal and you have all sorts of benefits not available to white people. This is wrong.
Of course, a penal colony has lots of officers and others around to organise the convicts so the stock wasn’t all bad!
Culture is a fluid thing as anyone can tell by looking at the attitudes of Victorian Britons. Even a comparison with 50 years ago shows stark differences within England. But while people accept organic cultural changes, government should not legislate cultural change and will preside over riots while it tries…
December 28th, 2005 at 3:50 pm
Gav, I think you’ll find that the experiences of female ethnic minorities is very different to matter such as a woman’s rac,e get in the way of their sexual proclivites, not so when it comes to giving others jobs and indirectly, money.
In a country where many companies still request a passport photograph on a CV, how many actually get a chance to show that they ARE French?
It’s easy to say that a large number refuse to be French, but tell that to the West African immigrants, who had their sub-standard accomodation burnt down, three times?
The three fires were well reported in the news, but not the facts that at least one of them was deliberately started by 3 white teenage girls.
See here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4215650.stm
under-reported and often ignored. It is no wonder that they rioted.
Rightly said, government should not legislate cultural change, but forcing people to be more like an indigenous, either directly or indirectly is doing just that.
Worse, comparing minority groups of radically different backgrounds residing in two very different countries is over-simplistic and assumes that migrant communities face the same problems in every Western country they go to.
That is just not the case.
December 28th, 2005 at 3:54 pm
All fair points!