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	<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/</link>
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		<title>by: Matthew Oxley</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1218</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I agree with James on the need for Nuclear power plants, they'll provide a good medium term option while we investigate how on earth it's possible to have more renewable energy.

Certainly better Insulation in homes should be the top of our agenda in tackling demand, especially if one believes reports about the state of the gulf stream. The problem with reducing demand though is that it takes time, it will also take some tough decisions along the way. Maybe in the future we'll have houses that retain heat as well as those in Finland do while having solar panels fitted to the roof as standard, and all our appliances will be twice as efficent - maybe this day is 5 decades away though.

While all this is going on, Nuclear power plants will do for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with James on the need for Nuclear power plants, they&#8217;ll provide a good medium term option while we investigate how on earth it&#8217;s possible to have more renewable energy.</p>
<p>Certainly better Insulation in homes should be the top of our agenda in tackling demand, especially if one believes reports about the state of the gulf stream. The problem with reducing demand though is that it takes time, it will also take some tough decisions along the way. Maybe in the future we&#8217;ll have houses that retain heat as well as those in Finland do while having solar panels fitted to the roof as standard, and all our appliances will be twice as efficent - maybe this day is 5 decades away though.</p>
<p>While all this is going on, Nuclear power plants will do for now.
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		<title>by: Gav</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1214</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1214</guid>
					<description>I didn't say the left created environmentalism, only that to make it the be-all and end-all suits their purposes. Being environmentally low-impact is something that everyone should be keen on; but we should all keep it in focus. The world will not be any noticeable amount better if we abide by the Kyoto reforms and, if we went as far as some would like, it would be much worse between now and 2100 when the difference of six years would have been achieved.

On nuclear waste, I alluded to the article in &lt;i&gt;Scientific American&lt;/i&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/ads4e&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/ads4e&lt;/a&gt;) which explains why this is no longer a problem. In a nutshell, currently there are two types of waste produced:
1) Waste with a massive half-life
2) Waste which degrades to natural radioactivity within a lifetime.

The problem is not the second on the briefest of lists, it is the first. And by the time the next generation of reactors can be planned and built, the reprocessing process and use of new designs of nuclear plants will have removed the creation of said material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say the left created environmentalism, only that to make it the be-all and end-all suits their purposes. Being environmentally low-impact is something that everyone should be keen on; but we should all keep it in focus. The world will not be any noticeable amount better if we abide by the Kyoto reforms and, if we went as far as some would like, it would be much worse between now and 2100 when the difference of six years would have been achieved.</p>
<p>On nuclear waste, I alluded to the article in <i>Scientific American</i> (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/ads4e" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href='http://tinyurl.com/ads4e' rel='nofollow'>http://tinyurl.com/ads4e</a></a>) which explains why this is no longer a problem. In a nutshell, currently there are two types of waste produced:<br />
1) Waste with a massive half-life<br />
2) Waste which degrades to natural radioactivity within a lifetime.</p>
<p>The problem is not the second on the briefest of lists, it is the first. And by the time the next generation of reactors can be planned and built, the reprocessing process and use of new designs of nuclear plants will have removed the creation of said material.
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		<title>by: James Hellyer</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1213</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1213</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;ah but you don’t say - what do we do with the nuclear waste?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

One advantage of the modern plant designs is the amazing reduction in the volume of waste produced: if modern plants were commissioned to replace the existing stations, Britain would be able to maintain its 20-25% share of nuclear-generated power and add just 10% to the UK's volume of existing nuclear waste over their 60-year operating lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;ah but you don’t say - what do we do with the nuclear waste?&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>One advantage of the modern plant designs is the amazing reduction in the volume of waste produced: if modern plants were commissioned to replace the existing stations, Britain would be able to maintain its 20-25% share of nuclear-generated power and add just 10% to the UK&#8217;s volume of existing nuclear waste over their 60-year operating lifetime.
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		<title>by: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1212</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1212</guid>
					<description>ah but you don't say - what do we do with the nuclear waste? and im not sure why you think environmentalism is something the 'left' has come up with. we don't expect much from indian capitalist but he is a nutty troll after all with limited vision and extremely bipolar views of the world. 

sustainable development and green policies are after all, issues the Tory party haven't  exactly 'pooh poohed' now is it? 

and even if they had, what would that prove?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah but you don&#8217;t say - what do we do with the nuclear waste? and im not sure why you think environmentalism is something the &#8216;left&#8217; has come up with. we don&#8217;t expect much from indian capitalist but he is a nutty troll after all with limited vision and extremely bipolar views of the world. </p>
<p>sustainable development and green policies are after all, issues the Tory party haven&#8217;t  exactly &#8216;pooh poohed&#8217; now is it? </p>
<p>and even if they had, what would that prove?
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		<title>by: Gav</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1211</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1211</guid>
					<description>Further to James Hellyer's comments, I would note that the article assumes that if electricity was demonstrably clean, we wouldn't start using electricity to heat our homes. If the choice was between dirty gas and clean electricity, the conscientious of society would use electric heaters more -- especially in new installations.

Transport is not affected by the power supply choices made about power stations (yet) but it seems very strange for a green campaigner to be saying that the issue should not be addressed because it doesn't make enough difference... Their dispropportinate attacks in other areas (cars rather than planes, allowing the monopolisation of the railways etc) would suggest that any self-respecting left-wing green would be clamouring for a nuclear powered Britain.

Insulation etc. is a solution borne out of the climate-change era which nuclear power would relegate to the past. What does it matter what power people use if it is their money they are spending and if the environment does not suffer as a result?

The answer is, it does not.

The environment is the left's darling because it allows them to interfere in people's homes (boiler efficiency) and in transport (plugging public transport etc). If nuclear were adopted and the environmental impact of carbon emmissions became a concern of the past, what would the left use as an excuse for control?

Recycling is an altogether different kettle of fish (do they smell?) and does not require expense on the part of the 'controlled' -- the left would find little leverage in that then!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to James Hellyer&#8217;s comments, I would note that the article assumes that if electricity was demonstrably clean, we wouldn&#8217;t start using electricity to heat our homes. If the choice was between dirty gas and clean electricity, the conscientious of society would use electric heaters more &#8212; especially in new installations.</p>
<p>Transport is not affected by the power supply choices made about power stations (yet) but it seems very strange for a green campaigner to be saying that the issue should not be addressed because it doesn&#8217;t make enough difference&#8230; Their dispropportinate attacks in other areas (cars rather than planes, allowing the monopolisation of the railways etc) would suggest that any self-respecting left-wing green would be clamouring for a nuclear powered Britain.</p>
<p>Insulation etc. is a solution borne out of the climate-change era which nuclear power would relegate to the past. What does it matter what power people use if it is their money they are spending and if the environment does not suffer as a result?</p>
<p>The answer is, it does not.</p>
<p>The environment is the left&#8217;s darling because it allows them to interfere in people&#8217;s homes (boiler efficiency) and in transport (plugging public transport etc). If nuclear were adopted and the environmental impact of carbon emmissions became a concern of the past, what would the left use as an excuse for control?</p>
<p>Recycling is an altogether different kettle of fish (do they smell?) and does not require expense on the part of the &#8216;controlled&#8217; &#8212; the left would find little leverage in that then!
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		<title>by: James Hellyer</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1210</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1210</guid>
					<description>The article's really missing the point. Yes, nuclear power alone &quot;cannot tackle&quot; climate change. Energy efficiency is important too. However, energy efficiency drives won't make us any less relaint on imported gas when our current nuclear generators go offline over the next decade. 

Eitehr way we need new powerstations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article&#8217;s really missing the point. Yes, nuclear power alone &#8220;cannot tackle&#8221; climate change. Energy efficiency is important too. However, energy efficiency drives won&#8217;t make us any less relaint on imported gas when our current nuclear generators go offline over the next decade. </p>
<p>Eitehr way we need new powerstations.
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		<title>by: Natalia</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1209</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1209</guid>
					<description>See this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,1688032,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See this:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,1688032,00.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,1688032,00.html</a>
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		<title>by: James Hellyer</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1206</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1206</guid>
					<description>None of whichmeans that supplies cannot be secured. When such large quantities can be mined by the likes of Australia, that offers a secure supply even if the Russian Federation, say, became problematic. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;And there are plenty of reasons for relying on Russia (and Kasakhstan/Uzbekistan) for their uranium, just like there is plenty of reason to rely on some of the corrupt African states.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I think price might be a heavy consideration, with France buying more uranium from the likes of Canada, and thus driving their prices up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of whichmeans that supplies cannot be secured. When such large quantities can be mined by the likes of Australia, that offers a secure supply even if the Russian Federation, say, became problematic. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;And there are plenty of reasons for relying on Russia (and Kasakhstan/Uzbekistan) for their uranium, just like there is plenty of reason to rely on some of the corrupt African states.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I think price might be a heavy consideration, with France buying more uranium from the likes of Canada, and thus driving their prices up.
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		<title>by: lascivious</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1205</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1205</guid>
					<description>So about 50/50, as I implied in my original comment, and by no means 'safe'. Granted - better than oil, where 50% is concentrated in the middle east and only 25% from 'friendly' sources. But by no means safe.

And there are plenty of reasons for relying on Russia (and Kasakhstan/Uzbekistan) for their uranium, just like there is plenty of reason to rely on some of the corrupt African states. If we didn't, we wouldn't be able to stockpile, as you point out we should, as demand would outstrip supply. My original point was that things are not all that rosey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So about 50/50, as I implied in my original comment, and by no means &#8217;safe&#8217;. Granted - better than oil, where 50% is concentrated in the middle east and only 25% from &#8216;friendly&#8217; sources. But by no means safe.</p>
<p>And there are plenty of reasons for relying on Russia (and Kasakhstan/Uzbekistan) for their uranium, just like there is plenty of reason to rely on some of the corrupt African states. If we didn&#8217;t, we wouldn&#8217;t be able to stockpile, as you point out we should, as demand would outstrip supply. My original point was that things are not all that rosey.
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		<title>by: James Hellyer</title>
		<link>http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/01/15/nuclear-power-yes/#comment-1204</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Obviously 45% isn't the majority - I was working from memory, but this should mean that there's no real reason other than cost for relying on the likes of Russia for supplies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously 45% isn&#8217;t the majority - I was working from memory, but this should mean that there&#8217;s no real reason other than cost for relying on the likes of Russia for supplies.
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