Dave also is right in one respect. It’s a bit rich warning us all of the blood-dripping-horror threat of what the BNP *might* do when compared with the drip by drip Police State that New-Labour actually ARE introducing…

I don’t think people considering supporting the BNP are being optimistic.

You’re right, socialists do often have illogical, dangerous and violent views. But the BNP’s founders and, I assume, the majority of its membership, believe in the superiority or the “indigenous people”. Whether or not it’s impractical, that would be their ultimate goal.

Blind optimism allowed Hitler to perpetrate his crimes against humanity, let’s not do the same for the BNP.

On the voters with coloured or mixed race children/relatives, I think that their desperation at having no electable mainstream party has pushed them into an irrational choice…

Gav, I don’t think Labour have given up violence at all, I can’t believe you say it, the Labour party has many members who support violent dictators like Castro & Chavez, many others support violence against Israel and the US. Galloway even called for attacks on British troops in support of Saddam Hussein! Yes he was kicked out for that, but just because he is the only one with the guts to say this stuff in public doesn’t mean he is the only one who thinks it.
I used to be part of a club, and once a nice socialist guy, you would think one of the nicest people you would ever meet, just after 9/11 terrorists attacks started saying some very vicious things against Americans and how he’d like to “get a job shooting them”. Since I have US friends I did not take kindly to this attitude.
And anyway it depends on your definition of evil men, some would say IRA had an evil side while others think they are freedom fighters, some people even think Osama bin Laden is one of the good guys.
Some Old Labour people soft on Communism didn’t see Stalin as evil at all, he was doing what was necessary in the face of the US threat!

The BNP have given up on the idea of forced repatriation and even if they hadn’t it would be totally impractical to attempt to do such a thing. As I said before I know someone who claimed he was going to vote BNP who has a black wife, whether he did vote in the end or not I don’t know. I don’t think that is unusual either, on skynews they were interviewing people from Dagenham I think, and there were women claiming they had some support for the BNP even though they had mixed race young kids or babies. Clearly they cannot be racist against their own children, something serious is going on here.

Dave, you’re right about the dangers posed by Labour. The difference, though, is that Labour’s support for violent and evil men is done, I believe, with the heart in the right place. They genuinely believe that appeasing terrorists is justified if a ceasefire can be brought about. As you can imagine, I don’t agree and I can see that you don’t.

The BNP has policies which send chills down your spine in and of themselves. The spectre of a British government rounding people up based on skin colour and telling them to get out of their homes and their country is more shocking than an errant Mayor inviting murderers over for tea.

In this political situation is allowed to go on then many would be conservatives may find no alternative but to embrace the BNP. And I think Dave has already done that. That is how it happened in Germany people who were opposed to socialists and communists alligned themselves with the Nazis, not knowing that they were in for.
So the danger to UK politics is there, but it is not so acute yet.

Its not impossible that other parties become worse than the BNP at some point.

Look at the way NewLabour are trying to control the Police and using them to promote Labour policies.
They are dangerous people obsessed with control.

That said, I think you’re right. It is an awful show that the BNP is needed to remind Labour and the Conservatives what’s important in people’s lives. And yet still, today, Labour spokespeople are publicly reassuring themselves that a vote for the BNP is a protest vote and not some inherent sympathy among the electorate for the BNP’s policies. Nothing is more likely to annoy a voter than that.

What Labour should be saying is “Yes, we understand people’s concerns, we have lost control of the borders and some of our priorities have been a bit skewed.” Then they should do something about it. Their current attitude stinks of Tory 1990.

Personally I am more scared of the New Labour party winning the next election than if the BNP were to win it, New Labour are the more dangerous people. They want to lock people up without trial, stuff their rich friends into perminant positions of power, Blair gets involved in international conflicts everytime he gets the chance, and he is putting legislation through parliament that is ending British democracy, ID cards, etc etc.
The BNP are used by the media as a distraction for the real enemy of this country, the NewLabour party.

I don’t think the BNP would end up being like Nazis at all, I think they just want Britain to be isolationist, stop all immigration and mind our own business.
I’ve never voted BNP btw.

You say you wouldn’t mind people voting BNP if that makes the main parties get back in touch with there base, but its a pretty fkin poor show if they need that kind of wake up call. You’re effectively admitting that the main political parties don’t represent the majority white British people.
And what is Cameron doing about that, nothing, infact he is making it worse.

I also saw Griffin on skynews, I thought he did a good job actually, better than I expected.