Comments on: Constitution or Policies? http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2007/06/05/constitution-or-policies/ English, Rationalist and Liberal Conservative Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:28:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Dave http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2007/06/05/constitution-or-policies/#comment-18103 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:45:39 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2007/06/05/constitution-or-policies/#comment-18103 yeah ok fair enough MJW, and I used to think that too. Then they rejected David Davis in favour of Cameron and my view changed somewhat. Now I vote UKIP, and maybe English nationalists. yeah ok fair enough MJW, and I used to think that too. Then they rejected David Davis in favour of Cameron and my view changed somewhat.
Now I vote UKIP, and maybe English nationalists.

]]> by: MJW http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2007/06/05/constitution-or-policies/#comment-18090 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:41:04 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2007/06/05/constitution-or-policies/#comment-18090 Dave, when I wrote about the things Conservatives wanted I meant the rank and file support, not some of the policy shifts the current leadership is attempting. Dave, when I wrote about the things Conservatives wanted I meant the rank and file support, not some of the policy shifts the current leadership is attempting.

]]> by: Dave http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2007/06/05/constitution-or-policies/#comment-17983 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:53:16 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2007/06/05/constitution-or-policies/#comment-17983 Nah, I don't think the Conservatives believe those things. Yes they are concerned about house prices and religious extremism etc, but not 'enough' to demand strict border control inorder to reduce the pressure on the housing market and try to keep the mostly foreign religious nutters out. Saying you love your wife doesn't mean much if you sleep around with anyone else you can find, and Conservaitves claiming to want to presserve this country's traditions and liberty while not controlling immigration and constantly giving away sovereignty to the EU shows their true colours too. Nah, I don’t think the Conservatives believe those things.
Yes they are concerned about house prices and religious extremism etc, but not ‘enough’ to demand strict border control inorder to reduce the pressure on the housing market and try to keep the mostly foreign religious nutters out.

Saying you love your wife doesn’t mean much if you sleep around with anyone else you can find, and Conservaitves claiming to want to presserve this country’s traditions and liberty while not controlling immigration and constantly giving away sovereignty to the EU shows their true colours too.

]]> by: MJW http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2007/06/05/constitution-or-policies/#comment-17966 Wed, 06 Jun 2007 08:43:47 +0000 http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2007/06/05/constitution-or-policies/#comment-17966 I think fundamentally the bulk of Conservatives still stand for those things, it's just that the message got side tracked by "nasty" or "selfish" Conservatism in the 1990s. In some respects that's why Cameron is trying so hard to move away from that image, unfortunately instead of focusing on being fair and equitable at the moment the message is a crude copy of some of the worst paternalistic tendencies of the social-liberal left. He needs to go back to talking about self-respect, respect for others, personal responsibility and merit through hard work, those are the things that Labour and the Limps have given up on and those are the issues that hurt them. I think fundamentally the bulk of Conservatives still stand for those things, it’s just that the message got side tracked by “nasty” or “selfish” Conservatism in the 1990s. In some respects that’s why Cameron is trying so hard to move away from that image, unfortunately instead of focusing on being fair and equitable at the moment the message is a crude copy of some of the worst paternalistic tendencies of the social-liberal left. He needs to go back to talking about self-respect, respect for others, personal responsibility and merit through hard work, those are the things that Labour and the Limps have given up on and those are the issues that hurt them.

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