Posts Tagged ‘Liberty’
We have nothing to worry about
Posted by: Gav in Gavin Ayling's blog on February 23rd, 2009
Some people, when I discuss civil liberties with them, accept that laws exist that ought not, or that powers provided to the authorities exceed what they need, but fall short of outrage.
The reason, it seems to me is one of two things:
- because, despite all the powers they have, “the authorities are unlikely to pick on me” as an individual (hey, I’m not Muslim); or
- I don’t believe the police would misuse their powers in respect of my activities.
But this naivete is worrying in the light of increasingly frequent news items which show that British authorities are more than happy to torture to ‘fight terrorism’.
Again, you may argue, “I’m not Muslim”. But is that the point? And if today’s enemy is people with pale-brown skin, is the enemy of tomorrow the person who takes pictures of politicians doing things they would rather people didn’t see? If our government will condone torture to any extent at all then we should fear it. And anything we genuinely and justifiably fear should not be empowered by our apathy.
I am sorry if you’re bored of reading about civil liberties, but the blame for that is surely our government. Politics used to be about ideals — socialism and capitalism — now it is much more important: it is about whether we are governed by people like us for the benefit of everyone, or whether we are governed by people who, once empowered by the ballot, literally take liberties.
If you suspect it, keep your nose out
Posted by: Gav in Gavin Ayling's blog on February 21st, 2009
Our increasingly fascist government has plumbed new depths with this image:

(Click the image to see the text a little larger)
It is now illegal to take a picture of a police officer if he decides it’s illegal. A little while ago they suggested that people should report their neighbours if they appeared to be living beyond their means and now they are asking people to report their peers for taking innocent photos.
How long before a racist utterance is met with “Let an experienced officer decide what action to take”? How long before your freedom on the street is entirely at the whim of another human being?
A friend of mine asked me the other day, apparently not sarcastically, whether it was legal to take a picture of another person. How far down the road are we where this could even be thought of as a possibility? Taking a photo does no-one any harm and what use are laws that don’t protect anyone? Actually, that’s the wrong question; we should not ask what use a law has that does not protect, rather we should be asking whether a law that does not protect anyone is a just law or an unjust intrusion on self.
I am conscious that this post will not excite the masses — there is nothing in these developments that could not be argued as being in the interest of the majority — but that is true of almost all the steps the state must take between now and Nineteen Eighty Four. Really.
Obviously good people must help the State protect other people from bad people, but when good people act for the State in reporting innocent people on a hunch, well then we’re on a slippery slope.
Freedom vs. The Taliban
Posted by: Gav in Gavin Ayling's blog on February 18th, 2009
The government of Pakistan has allowed a violent, facist government to take control of the Swat valley and the West is almost silent in criticism.
Freedom for individuals is under threat in the UK, let us be in no doubt, but the freedom of many, many more people is reliant on our words. We, as a country, should be criticising in the strongest terms any country which allows education to be denied its people. Whether it is the teaching of creationism as science in the US or the closure of schools for girls in Pakistan, we must make clear that they are unacceptable actions for any ally.
Education is one of the most fundamental requirements for a genuinely free and fair society. If schools fail children then as adults they end up reading newspapers where the commentary has no more than one sentence per paragraph; they end up protesting about things that they have voted for (oil refinery strikers who voted for parties that are pro-EU membership); with education, people are able to grasp and involve themselves in open debate.
I am sure there are some well-meaning members of JABS, but as the good doctor points out, there’s no debating with some members.
Like many things we do in society, our actions affect others. If we deny our daughters an education, if we don’t get vaccinated (or deny our children vaccination) we hurt others in tangible ways. I am sufficiently young that I have never been vaccinated against Small Pox — I am lucky that it was already wiped out when I was born — but there are other diseases that have not yet been destroyed that could be with a vaccination programme and the tin-foil-hatters on sites like JABS and the Daily Mail will put that (and others who were out of reach of vaccines) in danger.
The very least a freer society should be doing is criticising those who hold incorrect, illogical or unfair positions in arguments. By debating we can win but if we allow our short-term political goals to get in the way, we will surely delay any eventual victory for logic.
The new imperative: freedom
Posted by: Gav in Gavin Ayling's blog on February 16th, 2009
There are times, when you write a blog, that you wonder whether you get a little carried away, a little over obsessed with a particular concept or theme. There is a risk that I have started to become overly concerned about civil liberties.
Obviously I don’t think my views are being skewed but I am willing to accept that they may be.
For example, it would be easy to think that the Serious Crime Act 2007 (SCA), the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA), amendments to the Freedom of Information Act (FOI), the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 and the Terrorism Act 2000 (TA2000) are leading inexorably towards a police state.
A new ban on taking photographs of police; reports that in Brighton, political activists were filmed doing nothing wrong entering an environmental meeting; allegations that stop and search under the TA2000 are being used more than 99% of the time against non-terrorists… etc. could lead a naive person to imagine that the government, and maybe Her Majesty’s police have decided that free and open debate amongst proles is a danger to the status quo.
This is worth a read from today’s Guardian. I don’t believe, personally, that it over eggs the pudding.
The time is now for the Conservatives (and the Lib Dems minus Chris Huhne) to start making some noise about freedom. It is time for the people to demand the return of their lost freedoms. It is time to focus on the most important issues.
The EU has been called the EUSSR by those who understand its methods and how it is designed. But the UK is fast approaching the same sort of controls as there are in China and Airstrip One.
On a lighter note (and with an important, if less-important, message):
Freedom under grave threat
Posted by: Gav in Gavin Ayling's blog on February 12th, 2009
I was once described, by the leader of Adur District Council, as a right-wing anarchist. And he may be right — much of what government and Councils do I consider an imposition on freedom.
I have expressed, to the dismay of the Conservatives, my distress that civilian-enforcement of parking restrictions will be introduced in Shoreham, Lancing, Sompting and Southwick. I express, publicly and often, my dismay that there is no party that promises to repeal or amend the Road Traffic Act 1991 and to remove charges for parking on public roads.
But these concerns are nothing — less than nothing — when we, as a country, support the oppression of freedom of speech.
Geert Wilders made some unfortunate comparisons between the Qu’ran and Mein Kampf. Now I cannot pretend to have read either but that does not matter to me. The principle here is that a man of conviction, who criticised a religion not a race, has been stopped from entering this country.
Worse, the Liberal Democrats, the Liberal Democrats support this ban (Chris Huhne’s quote).
As I said in 2006, we are under attack by people who would rather control our thoughts and our actions. It’s not enough that we must respect those who do not respect us by law; we must now not say anything against a book written 1,100 years ago. Presumably if I said that the writings of the Ancient Greeks were nonsense, I would not be roundly assaulted by the machines of state, but if I dare criticise a more modern religion I must be censored by the Orwellian machinery?
As I say, I have not read the holy book of Islam or the full-text of the frightening witterings of Germany’s most famous mass-murderer, but some points should be made about Geert Wilder’s claims.
- The Old Testament could safely be described as fascist if taken literally
- The principles of Islamic Finance that I have recently studied are about fair trade and commerce — fairer trade than the Western fiscal model
- Islam is a religion that, unlike Judaism and Hinduism, can be practised by anyone who manages to find faith in the God of Muhammed
- Criticising a religion, and especially Christianity or Islam, is not the same as criticising a race
I suspect that none of those points could be competently criticised as they are not opinions (okay, maybe the first one but then read Leviticus and Exodus and come back to me), but facts.
Some people accept, and I have to say, I have some sympathy here, that there are things people can say that can manipulate people and endanger other peoples’ lives. It is possible, but to criticise a religion (no matter how specifically) is not to tell people to attack any group or individual. Of itself I can see no way that comparing the Qu’ran to Mein Kampf (or by showing video of appalling atrocities committed in the name of Islam) has placed any individual or group in danger (except maybe Geert himself — from his government, ours and the misguided Muslims that he shows).
I know some Muslims (not many, I grant you, and surely not enough to make any statistical sense) and they are not, as a group, different to any other group. You could find, within any organisation, people who would do bad things or twist the meaning or exaggerate and in this respect Islam is no different. In the same way, a group of people who would normally be expected to be in favour of free speech (the Liberal Democrats) have amongst them the mealy-mouthed Chris Huhne.
Having watched a part of Fitna, Wilder’s video, the quotes he gives are not dissimilar from quotes you would find in the Old Testament of the Bible. If Wilder is guilty of anything, he is guilty of suggesting that it is only Islam which, if its Holy Books were taken literally, could be used to commit atrocities.
It is not news that the verbatim words of some religious texts could be used to commit acts of violence. I don’t have the answers but I do know that blocking freedom of speech is not the answer to greater understanding and liberalism in those Islamic countries that we, as a nation, do not count amongst our friends.
I don’t know how much we can trust the claims of the BBC’s Science and Islam programme but if we can, then we must know that Fitna is over the top; that Islam allowed other religions to live alongside it; and that the aggression in the passages that Wilder quotes (and that could be quoted, as I said, just as easily from the Old Testament of the Bible) was not acted upon even shortly after the Prophet passed on his message.
But it is key, is it not, that I can only make these comments, only criticise Wilder, only criticise Islamic extremists, only criticise people who believe in God (any God), only question people who would do something only because their Rabbi, Mullah, Priest, Vicar or whatever tells them to… I can only make these comments, if the other side is available. We cannot debate without hearing all sides.
How could I convince someone on a doorstep in Crawley (as I did at an election in 2006) that the BNP is not for them if the things that the BNP believe and promote are not public knowledge, if what they say cannot be criticised? The same would be true of Respect, if their version of political insanity was under threat of state-censure.
We need free speech in order to ensure all other forms of freedom and I demand it. We must all demand it. We must all vote tactically at every opportunity, to ensure that this Labour government does not continue on its path.
See also montanareddog’s comments on the Guardian.
Final thoughts “A spokesman for the Conservative Party said it did not wish to comment.” according to the Daily Malice.
Tim Loughton: a minority in a good sense
Posted by: Gav in Gavin Ayling's blog on January 21st, 2009
It appears that our MP (here in the constituency of Shoreham & East Worthing), Tim Loughton, is in a minority of one notable MPs on the Conservative side against an amendment to the Freedom of Information Act which would allow MPs and Peers, and only MPs and Peers, to be exempt from the Act.
This from the Guardian:
Last night Tory opposition was also growing with Tim Loughton, the Tory frontbench spokesman on children and MP for Worthing East and Shoreham, cancelling a visit to Birmingham so he could oppose the proposal and Lord Baker, the Tory former cabinet minister, deciding to vote against the measure in the Lords.
At least some politicians appear to care about right and wrong — it’s a shame so many of them are in opposition.
Let’s hope David Cameron can be convinced not to abstain, but instead to show that he believes in democracy and whip up a vote against Gordon Brown’s abuse of power.
Beware history’s rose-tinted glasses
Posted by: Gav in Gavin Ayling's blog on January 19th, 2009
I have recently finished Richard Dawkin’s masterpiece “The God Delusion”. I strongly commend it to anyone who… well, anyone. It reflects my opinions almost exactly.
One chapter of the book covered specifically the affect of society on the accepted morality of the time. One example he gave was a quote of Abraham Lincoln.
Before I share it with you though, I should point out the parallels that observers are making between Barack Obama and Abraham Lincoln (even before he takes office tomorrow!).
But if a parallel is to be drawn we should be careful of viewing historical figures through rose-tinted glasses:
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”
To be clear, I’m not suggesting that Lincoln didn’t do some great things for the slaves of America, and I’m not suggesting he was anything but a moral man by his day’s standards, but we must know the person before we can claim to be following in his footsteps (not that Obama is).
I hope Obama lives up to America’s, and the world’s, hopes. But I hope he is a moral man by today’s judgement, and not moral as Lincoln would be judged by today’s standards!
Mr Obama
Posted by: Gav in Gavin Ayling's blog on November 7th, 2008
I am obviously delighted that Barack Obama won and, no, I wouldn’t be saying that if the Christian fundamentalist had won.
When he ceases to be President Elect, and when he becomes President-proper, I shall be counting the days that Guantanamo remains with innocent people imprisoned. I would be delighted if my count got no higher than one; I cannot imagine what those people are going through (especially if, had they had a trial, they would have been found not guilty) and I would not wish any more time in those conditions…
That said, I expect it would take some time for this to be complete so I shall personally give him a year.
Update 14/03/2009: Due to higher levels than normal of spam on this post I have closed comments early.





